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I was rereading my old posts, as one does, and I saw that I had promised an entire blog post about a specific, awful internship of mine. Normally I don’t make a habit of criticizing my former employers publicly. That said, I’m well removed from this job and most of my former coworkers. I’m not going to name the company, although it’s not hard to figure it out.

The Interview

I got this job during my gap year in between high school and college. I had done an internship at a small hedge fund, which I had gotten from family contacts, then I did some traveling. I highly recommend traveling if you can afford it. I managed to go through Europe, had a really great time, and picked up some skills in self sufficiency. I came back from the trip in early December and decided to start looking for jobs. Of course December is a terrible month to look for jobs because everybody’s either on vacation or preparing to go on vacation, so I started looking in January.

This was hard. I go into it in my internships post, but it was really quite frustrating. One annoying aspect of big companies is that they require you to apply to very specific roles, i.e. a summer internship or a fall co-op position. If you don’t fit in those boxes, they won’t even have a place for you to apply. Besides, I wasn’t even a college student.

I tried going back to my internship at the hedge fund but they were too busy. No harm, they had given me a really great few months of mentorship and I’m still extremely grateful to them. I kept on applying to different places and finally got a job at this company MyTime (name changed). I went over the interview process in the previous post, but I think it’s worth highlighting the red flags.

For one, they had a ridiculous online assessment. They asked me to write a JSON parser. This is an extremely difficult task. Superficially, it seems somewhat doable. You check if there’s a { or a [, parse as an object or array, then repeat. In reality there’s a lot of subtle stuff around quoting, escaping, trailing commas, etc. I solved this with import json in Python.

For the on-site interview, they had a few rounds, one of which consisted of essentially random programming trivia like “what’s the package manager for Rails”—some of which the interviewer himself didn’t know. The interviewer in that case was a man named Esteban (again name changed) who…I’ll talk about a lot more.

Later on, when I was at MyTime, I compared notes with other programmers and we all had pretty bad interview experiences. Which gives us the first good lesson: If you leave your interview confused, annoyed or insulted, you should probably not work at this company.

I also remember asking some standard vetting questions such as “do you do usability testing?” and “what is your code review process?”. The answers were predictably bad: MyTime ostensibly used various style guides but not really; they had testers but no real usability testing. And remember, what they tell you in the interview is the euphemistic version. The reality is a lot messier.

Even worse, the company gave me what’s called an exploding offer, which is when an offer is given with an extremely short notice, with the idea of pressuring the employee to accept without any negotiation or reconsideration. This is a scummy, unpleasant tactic. I later learned that the CTO used it constantly.

I was pretty aware of all the red flags at the time, but I also wanted a damn job, so I accepted their offer.

The Company

So what was MyTime? They were a company founded in the mid 2000’s that ostensibly focused on virtual reality. However, that was kind of a stretch. While MyTime was working on various VR/AR ideas, the backbone of their business was their online tour business. Online tours were these virtual “experiences” where people could navigate a college campus in a Google Streetview type setup. These could include 360 video, 360 images, or just regular static images. Colleges, companies, etc. all bought them as promotional material. And while there was an option to use Google Cardboard with these tours, calling them a VR product was an extreme stretch. They were more like glorified online multimedia slideshows.

One interesting aspect was that MyTime made the content in house. While the work was not high art, it was fairly impressive. They were essentially a specialized advertising firm pretending to be a tech VR company.

MyTime had an interesting founding story. The co-founders had met at college, where as international students they had bemoaned their inability to see the campus ahead of time. They decided to fix this problem and founded MyTime. They didn’t take any funding beyond some money from the founders’ families and they remained in the c-suite positions. Astute readers are likely noting that this means all of the c-suite had minimal job experience. Not only was that true, because they didn’t take any funding, the founders were not beholden or supervised by anybody except themselves. Another good lesson: when applying for a job, look into the power structure of the company.

The CTO, Omar, played a significant role. You see, Omar, as many successful businessmen are, was a rather egotistical fellow. He considered himself quite brilliant. However, his view of his brilliance exceeded the success of the company, hence the insistence that MyTime was a VR company, not an advertising firm with a web interface. And he clearly wanted MyTime to push upward to bigger and greater things—not a bad goal mind you.

The only issue? Because Omar was accustomed to being his boss, because he was so egotistical, he was unable to take the steps necessary to really manifest his dreams. He refused to take VC money. He refused to delegate power. And worst of all, he refused to hire well. Omar exemplified the phrase “first class people hire first class people; second class people hire third class people”. The company was full of people, many of them nice folks, who were simply not the best. Many of them had interviewed with Omar, an experience often confusing, annoying or insulting. To take the job after that, one would have to be desperate. It was a premature Dead Sea Effect. To have taken a job with such a company, you needed to be desperate for a job.

And do you know what the worst part about the company was, the truly awful, terrible truth? It was surprisingly successful! MyTime made a respectable amount of cash. They weren’t pulling in billions of dollars, but they were a bonafide successful business. It turns out that colleges, as well as many large companies, have pretty decent advertising budgets as well as the bad taste to shell out for a “virtual experience” that, fortunately for MyTime as we shall see, nobody actually uses! MyTime was in an enviable position of selling a product that nobody actually used to a customer who had plenty of cash and very poor judgement.

Why was this so bad? There’s this theory of business that I’ve noticed, and is probably codified in some business text, that companies can become victims of their own success. If a company finds a really strong product-market fit, it can often be extremely hard to expand out of it because the entire company up until that point has been oriented around said fit. Furthermore, the company doesn’t have any urgency to expand, as its main product is still generating money and in many cases still growing.

The classic example of this is Google. Google has the most ridiculously good PMF in advertising. They are the most effective advertiser in the world, barring maybe Facebook. The upside of this success is that Google has no real need to make a second big product. Ever notice how Google kills so many of their products? It’s because they have no need to maintain their products unless it becomes a trillion dollar industry.

Of course not every company falls into this trap. Amazon is a terrifying great example of a company expanding its markets all the time.

With MyTime this was happening on a mini-scale. The company was successful, but because of its success, it could afford to stagnate. How did it stagnate? For one, the codebase was garbage. Utter garbage. It had started out as a PHP codebase written by Omar in his college years. Something tells me he was never an ace programmer. When Ruby on Rails became hot and everybody was talking about mode-view-controller (MVC) frameworks, it migrated to a custom MVC framework in PHP. Just before I got there, it was peak React fervor and so the team had decided to complete a rewrite in, you guessed it, React and Redux. The only problem? They didn’t really understand modern JavaScript, or React or Redux1. The rewrite was an utter mess. The codebase was a horrible amalgam of the old code and the new. State flowed up, down, left, right. Naming conventions were totally ignored. Yet, because the product was used by nobody and wildly financially succesful, they received no negative feedback.

And believe me, if someone had used the product they would have given feedback. It was slow with terrible usability. It had innumerable bugs. It wasn’t even a very good tour of the college.

The Work

I started working at MyTime shortly after the interview. They gave me my desk with a somewhat old Mac Mini, which was both good and bad. Good in that I saw how slow JavaScript can be on old machines, bad in that I saw how goddamn slow JavaScript can be on old machines2.

MyTime, like any tech company these days, had an open office plan. I was sitting at a long table next to my manager, Dan, and surrounded by other members of my team. This was a terrible arrangement for a few reasons. One, it meant no privacy from my manager. As any developer can tell you, nobody is 100% productive. Most people, even if their days are completely free, cannot code for more than say 4-5 hours a day. However, Dan seemed to not understand this. If I were to seemingly slack off, by, say, going on reddit, he’d lead over and say something delightfully passive aggressive like “hey, how’s it going? Can I help you with anything?”

Second, open office meant open to distractions. Esteban had this infuriating habit of constantly rubbing his hands together. He’d do it really quickly, like a nervous tick or something. Perhaps this is just me, but there’s something about a constant, low level distraction that is mind breakingly annoying. And, yes, I could have confronted Esteban about this, but I was not as confident in confrontation just yet.

There was also a team working on some sort of AR project, one of Omar’s attempts at expanding the company beyond its core product. I can still remember core details of the project to this day, which indicates how goddamn distracting it must have been. And yes, yes, one could argue that this is the precise sort of cross pollination that an open office provides. However my job was nowhere close to theirs and I never used any of that information in a beneficial manner to the company.

As for the work, well this was not the carefully designed and scoped intern projects that I had experienced at the hedge fund, and later experienced at Microsoft and other companies. Instead I was essentially a very badly paid junior developer. I was thrown into a profoundly messy, poorly written codebase of JavaScript and PHP. To say it was difficult is to understate it immensely. I could not understand the codebase for the life of me. I’m not sure I could understand it now. The team had adopted a whole host of technologies that they didn’t fully comprehend. Worse, they had decided that their way out of this mess was to add more technologies they didn’t understand.

I distinctly remember arguing with Esteban, a fervent magpie developer, about Docker. In retrospect, neither of us really knew what we were talking about. The difference was that I admitted this ignorance, while Esteban ignored it, making claims about what Docker could do that far exceeded its actual capabilities. The argument ended with Esteban laughing, and me fuming, not wonderful. This shouldn’t be necessary to state, but you should never laugh at your interns. He was so certain that he knew so much more than me and was educating the young intern.

Looking back with a better knowledge of Docker, I’m not even sure it would have helped their deployment. At MyTime the codebase was a massive multi-gigabyte repo, filled with various random files, some of which were not needed (but nobody knew which). Because it was a PHP stack, their deployment strategy was to copy this entire multi-gigabyte repo up to their servers and served with Nginx. At some point one of us realized that because the entire codebase was copied up and served, we could access any file in the codebase from the production site. Fixing this didn’t require Docker, it just required a more sane deployment strategy.

There’s a lot more I could talk about like how their API fetches were these horribly organized megabyte large data dumps, how their product naming changed multiple times and the remnants were left in the codebase, how nobody knew all the different features and aspects of the product. But that’d take an entire book.

Instead, let’s talk about the most annoying aspect of working on the codebase. You see, I’d come across some terrible aspect of the code, maybe a horribly designed component, and I’d ask around about how the component came to be, who wrote it, etc.

And nobody would know! They’d all shrug and claim ignorance. And yet the bad code kept pilling up. There wasn’t any sense of ownership in the codebase. Nobody felt responsible for the mess, so nobody was willing to clean it up.

In fairness, it was an extremely daunting mess to clean up. I tried at several points to refactor, but I had neither the skill in JavaScript nor the tactical awareness necessary to pull it off. Refactors are worth a blog post in of themselves, but in short, they’re not as easy to do as people think. A good refactor needs to be scoped, accessible to the rest of the team and not introduce any regressions. Otherwise you run the risk of breaking more than you fix, which isn’t great for the product and lowers your credibility with the team. In especially sub-par environments, the team may take this as a lesson to not refactor or to ignore your advice.

Not to mention, refactors benefit from having the original author around. Otherwise you run the risk of repeating the same mistakes.

So why did nobody know? For one, there was a lot of turn-over on the team. After all, with that codebase and that management, why would you stick around? Not to mention, the pay was pretty awful. I was paid 20/hr, a decent salary for a high school graduate living with his parents. Translated to a yearly salary, it’s about 40k. Y’know what one of my fellow developers was paid? 53k! That’s an utterly insulting amount for a full time developer in New York. Sure, he started out as an intern after a bootcamp, but that’s an absurd wage in New York. Omar’s willingness to hire a developer for 53k speaks to both his idiocy and his cheapness. That developer also worked Saturdays. For 53 thousand dollars.

The Team

Which brings me to the team. We had Dan, my manager. He seemed a decent fellow overall, besides the passive aggressive micromanagement and technical incompetence. He had also bought into the MyTime system entirely. If he could, Dan would have been a MyTime lifer. For all I know he is. After that we had Mohammad, a QA guy, and Jalen, another developer. Don’t get me wrong. They were all solid people. I got along with them pretty well. But for whatever reason, they just did not write good code. They had this perpetual attitude that they were under fire and needed to deliver code as soon as possible. Again, people would come in on Saturdays to finish their work.

There were a few others on the team, such as Bharat, who was our scrum master. Oh yeah, we practiced agile. Except Bharat’s entire job appeared to just be nagging us about keeping only one task active at a time, and quizzing us on task sizes. Task sizes, if you’re not familiar, is a fun exercise in which agile people pretend they’re not asking for estimates by hiding behind analogies like t-shirt sizes. Estimates aren’t inherently bad, but with a codebase as messy as MyTime’s, they weren’t very accurate. It’s like looking for your phone in a messy bedroom with piles of clothes everywhere, versus looking in a clean, organized room.

After I joined, another developer, Paul, joined. Honestly Paul joining was a huge relief. First, he was able to completely validate my concerns. He came and immediately realized the same issues that I had. In fact, it was a little uncanny seeing his progression of emotions mirror mine. He started out thinking he could change MyTime’s issues, and impose sane development practices. After some time dealing with everybody, he got more and more discouraged and eventually angry. This was basically my journey as well.

  • Team
    • Kevin: Underpaid
    • Akhil: Deliverables
    • New guys
  • Trenches

  1. Granted neither did I until quite a few months after I left MyTime. ↩︎

  2. I really do not understand why companies are so reticient to upgrade computers. It’s like what, 2k? Who cares? ↩︎